DAVE DAVIES, HOST:

That is FRESH AIR. I am Dave Davies, in for Terry Gross. As we speak, as a deal with whereas all of us are dealing with the pandemic, we’ve a efficiency by top-of-the-line jazz and blues singers round – Catherine Russell. Loads of the fabric she does is jazz, blues and pop relationship again to the 1930s and ’40s. Her father, Luis Russell, was a pianist, composer and arranger and was Louis Armstrong’s music director within the mid-’40s. Her mom, Carline Ray, carried out with the all-women’s band The Worldwide Sweethearts of Rhythm. Catherine Russell’s newest album is titled “Alone Collectively.”

Terry invited her to our studio in 2012, when her album “Strictly Romancin'” was launched. She was accompanied by guitarist Matt Munisteri.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED NPR BROADCAST)

CATHERINE RUSSELL: (Singing) Get up and reside. Do not thoughts the wet patter, and you will discover it is thoughts over matter. Darkish clouds will break up in case you simply get up and reside. Yeah, get up and reside. Present the stuff you are made from. Simply observe by means of. What are you afraid of? You will strive it, will not you? Why do not you get up and reside? Come out of your shell. Hey, fella, discover your home within the solar. Come out of your shell. Say, fella, simply be a go-getting son of a gun. Get up and reside, if woman luck is yawning. Up in your toes, a greater day is dawning. Do not let up, rise up and provides. Simply give your self a shake-up simply to get up and reside. Come out of your shell. Hey, fella, discover your home within the solar. Come out of your shell. Say, fella, simply be a go-getting son of a gun. Yeah, get up and reside if woman luck is yawning. Up in your toes, a greater day is dawning. Do not let up, rise up and provides. Simply give your self a shake-up simply to get up and reside.

TERRY GROSS: Yeah, that was nice. Thanks each a lot.

(LAUGHTER)

GROSS: That is Catherine Russell singing with Matt Munisteri featured on guitar. Now, you are right here singing reside for us, which is thrilling. However there’s an album – there is a tune from the brand new album I really wish to play from the album as a result of your mom is featured on it, singing a duet with you on a Rosa (ph) Tharpe gospel tune.

RUSSELL: Sister Rosetta Tharpe and Sister Marine Knight recorded rather a lot collectively again within the 1940s. And she or he swung. You understand, that is what additionally grabbed me about her music.

GROSS: So let’s hear the monitor from the album during which you sing a duet along with your mom, and that is “He is All I Want.” And that is my visitor, Catherine Russell, together with her mom Carline Ray, who used to carry out most famously in The Worldwide Sweethearts of Rhythm, an all-women’s band, throughout World Conflict II. And that is from Catherine’s new album, which known as “Strictly Romancin’.”

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “HE’S ALL I NEED”)

CATHERINE RUSSELL AND CARLINE RAY: (Singing) If I used to be hungry with out bread to eat. Effectively, If I used to be bare with no footwear on my toes. Effectively, if I used to be questioning, oh, Lord, the place would I be? The Lord, he’s my shepherd, – yeah, yeah – and that is all I am going to ever want. And now the Lord is my shepherd – he’s my shepherd – the Lord is my shepherd. And that is all I must know. Oh now the Lord is my shepherd…

GROSS: That is Catherine Russell duetting together with her mom Carline Ray from Catherine’s new album “Strictly Romanin’.” I actually like that a lot. At a time when there have been few ladies instrumentalists in jazz, your mom was enjoying guitar with The Worldwide Sweethearts of Rhythm…

RUSSELL: Sure.

GROSS: …Within the 1940s, throughout World Conflict II. After which your father dies if you’re 7.

RUSSELL: Yeah.

GROSS: So your mom’s on her personal…

RUSSELL: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

GROSS: …Elevating you.

RUSSELL: Sure.

GROSS: So you could have gotten the impression from her that girls can undoubtedly be robust and do issues which are unconventional for ladies.

RUSSELL: Sure. You understand, even when my dad was alive, I imply, she was at all times very unbiased. She left residence to go on the street, and girls simply did not actually try this. You understand, so my grandfather – she used to inform me the story. You understand, my grandfather would say, you will be again, , if you’ve…

GROSS: (Laughter).

RUSSELL: You will be again, . And she or he left, and she or he did not come again, actually, . She simply left and began working proper after she graduated from Juilliard College of Music. You understand, she wished to play, and she or he was impressed by all of the jazz on 52nd Road and listening to, , Billie Vacation reside, and Artwork Tatum accompanied her one night time. And so she was actually decided and really unbiased and really targeted.

GROSS: Should you’re simply becoming a member of us, we’re doing one thing particular as we speak. We now have Catherine Russell performing some songs for us in our studio, accompanied by guitarist Matt Munisteri.

So each your mother and father have been jazz musicians.

RUSSELL: Sure.

GROSS: However you grew up listening to all types of issues rising up within the ’50s and ’60s. I will ask you to sing a tune that meant rather a lot to you if you have been coming of age musically and if you have been actually impressionable and studying new issues.

RUSSELL: All proper. Effectively, my first 45 that I purchased was a Supremes 45. I believe it value me about 40 cents again in 1964, 1965 – one thing like that. Then with all of the woman teams, I cherished a tune referred to as “Nowhere To Run” by Martha Reeves and the Vandellas. Then afterward, I noticed that The Isley Brothers additionally recorded it, and I cherished their model of it. In order that’s the place I take this model from.

GROSS: Improbable. And that is my visitor Catherine Russell singing with guitarist Matt Munisteri.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “NOWHERE TO RUN”)

RUSSELL: (Singing) Nowhere to run to, child, nowhere to cover. I received nowhere to run to, child, nowhere to cover. It isn’t love I am working from; it is simply the heartache I do know will come ‘trigger I do know you are no good for me. However you have grow to be part of me. All over the place I am going, each face I see, each step I take, you are taking with me, child. Nowhere to run to, child, nowhere to cover. Oh, received nowhere to run to, child, nowhere to cover. I do know you are no good for me now, however freed from you I am going to by no means be, yeah. Nowhere to run to, child, nowhere to cover. Oh, yeah, nowhere to run to, child, nowhere to cover. Nowhere to cover.

GROSS: That was nice. And what an achievement to sing that solo with out a backup group, ?

(LAUGHTER)

GROSS: It is humorous ‘trigger that is the form of tune that is normally so depending on, like, the backup singers. You was once a backup singer. And right here you might be doing it solo.

(LAUGHTER)

RUSSELL: I do not know. I simply love that tune. I really like the truth that it is really blues, . It is a unhappy tune, but it surely’s – , we used to bop to that tune after I was a child.

DAVIES: We’re listening again to a live performance recorded in 2012 with jazz and blues singer Catherine Russell and guitarist Matt Munisteri. Extra after a break. That is FRESH AIR.

(SOUNDBITE OF ERROLL GARNER’S “YOU MADE ME LOVE YOU”)

DAVIES: That is FRESH AIR. Let’s get again to our live performance with Catherine Russell and guitarist Matt Munisteri recorded in 2012, after her album “Strictly Romancin'” was launched.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED NPR BROADCAST)

GROSS: I might love so that you can do one other tune. And this can be a tune by Fat Waller that is the title monitor of considered one of your earlier albums referred to as “Inside This Coronary heart Of Mine.” You understand, you at all times affiliate Fat Waller with these, like, up-tempo form of jokey songs, and this can be a actually, like, heartbreaking tune. And it is not what you’d count on. It is a fantastic tune. Inform us why you selected it.

RUSSELL: That is why I selected it as a result of one other occasion of me, , cleansing up the kitchen after an excellent meal, and I mentioned, let me put Fat Waller on, . And I used to be form of, , dancing across the kitchen, after which it simply struck me. It is such a fantastic tune, and the lyric simply form of caught me. And I assumed, OK, I’ve to be taught this; I’ve to sing it.

GROSS: Effectively, you are not kidding round if you sing it.

RUSSELL: Thanks.

(LAUGHTER)

GROSS: So that is my visitor Catherine Russell with Matt Munisteri on guitar, they usually’re performing in our studio. And she or he has a brand new album which known as “Strictly Romancin’.”

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “INSIDE THIS HEART OF MINE”)

RUSSELL: (Singing) Outdoors it is sunny. However on this coronary heart of mine, the world is gloomy. The solar refused to shine. I’ve completed the perfect that I might do, all for you. Now we’re by means of. Sunshine brings hazard inside this coronary heart of mine. Blue skies taunt me. Recollections hang-out me. You don’t need me. Let me be alone and have my cry. Outdoors it is sunny, however that is an actual unhealthy signal. Love is a stranger inside this coronary heart of mine. Blue skies taunt me. Recollections hang-out me. You don’t need me. Let me be alone and have my cry. Outdoors it is sunny, however that is an actual unhealthy signal. Love is a stranger inside this coronary heart of mine – inside this coronary heart of mine.

GROSS: Fabulous. Thanks a lot. I really like the way in which you try this tune.

With me in our studio is singer Catherine Russell and guitarist Matt Munisteri. They’re performing some songs for us. She has a brand new album which known as “Strictly Romancin’.” He is the featured guitarist and music director on the album.

So I hate to say it, however our – I believe our time is up. And earlier than you permit, I might love so that you can sing one other tune for us.

RUSSELL: OK.

GROSS: And I’ve one to suggest, and it is referred to as “The whole lot’s Been Executed Earlier than.” It is one of many songs on the brand new album, which known as “Strictly Romancin’.” And once more, inform us why you selected this one.

RUSSELL: I used to be as soon as once more listening to a compilation and this time it was a Louis Armstrong compilation, and Decca had simply put this compilation out.

GROSS: Was your father on these data?

RUSSELL: Sure. And that is throughout a interval when my dad was musical director and one of many arrangers for Louis Armstrong’s orchestra – it was really my dad’s orchestra throughout the years of 1935 to 1943. This assortment goes as much as 1946, however lots of the tunes are, , my dad’s preparations. And so after I hearken to this music, it is like I am simply residence, . It is – so after I hear Louis Armstrong sing, the whole lot he sings – he is so inspiring to me as a result of he had a tough life. And the whole lot he sings, his life is in each lyric. You consider the whole lot he sings, ? And so after I heard this tune, I assumed anybody else singing that, it will form of be corny-sounding to folks, possibly. I do not know. However when he sings it, it is so actual that it simply drew me in. And I assumed, what a easy concept. What a old school, romantic concept.

GROSS: So was your father music director when Armstrong sang issues like “Bought A Model New Swimsuit” or…

RUSSELL: Yeah. Sure.

GROSS: No, actually?

RUSSELL: Sure. Sure. Sure.

GROSS: Or “On A Coconut Island?”

RUSSELL: Yeah. That is on these…

GROSS: No – oh, I really like that stuff.

RUSSELL: All of these issues are on that – yeah, throughout these years…

GROSS: Oh, no.

RUSSELL: …Yeah, within the ’30s.

GROSS: In order that was really your father’s band?

RUSSELL: Yeah. That was his orchestra.

GROSS: Catherine Russell, it has been, actually, very particular to have you ever right here performing as we speak. Thanks so very a lot.

RUSSELL: Effectively, thank, you. You haven’t any concept. It has been so particular for me. And I simply wish to say, desires can come true. So…

(LAUGHTER)

GROSS: And Matt Munisteri, thanks a lot for being right here as we speak.

MATT MUNISTERI: Thanks, thanks.

GROSS: So we’ll hear yet one more tune. And that is, once more, a tune from Catherine Russell’s new album, “Strictly Romancin’.” However she’s performing in our studio with Matt Munisteri on guitar. And thanks each once more.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “EVERYTHING’S BEEN DONE BEFORE”)

RUSSELL: (Singing) The whole lot’s been completed earlier than. To share a kiss, a second’s bliss, and listen to you whisper you like me – sweetheart, it is thrills as outdated because the hills. However it’s new to me. Oh, the whole lot’s been completed earlier than. The birds that sing the tune of spring at all times singing above me – but, with you, their singing is one thing that is new to me. Life is unusual. We hate to alter from what’s tried and true. Though, I do know I am solely doing what the others do. But, all of it appears new. Oh, the whole lot’s been completed earlier than. To fall in love with stars above started with Adam and Eve. However after I’m with you, I simply wish to do what’s been completed earlier than. Oh, life is unusual. We hate to alter from what’s tried and true. Though, I do know I am solely doing what the others do. But, all of it appears information. The whole lot’s been completed earlier than. To fall in love with stars above started with Adam and Eve. However after I’m with you, I simply wish to do what’s been earlier than.

DAVIES: Our live performance with Catherine Russell and Matt Munisteri on guitar was recorded in 2012. Her newest album is titled “Alone Collectively.” Arising, movie critic Justin Chang opinions two crime dramas that start streaming this week. That is FRESH AIR.

(SOUNDBITE OF JAKE MASON TRIO’S “LEMON TWIST”)

DAVIES: That is FRESH AIR. There is no scarcity of outdated and new motion pictures to observe whereas many people are staying at residence. Our movie critic, Justin Chang, opinions two new, very completely different crime dramas that start streaming this week, “Dangerous Training” and “True Historical past Of The Kelly Gang,” each of which he first noticed eventually 12 months’s Toronto Worldwide Movie Pageant. Here is Justin.

JUSTIN CHANG, BYLINE: I see a variety of motion pictures yearly at movie festivals, which, like all public gatherings, have been hit exhausting by the coronavirus pandemic. Some, like South by Southwest, have been cancelled whereas others, like Cannes, have been postponed till additional discover. Many within the business are cautiously optimistic that Toronto, one of many largest festivals on the earth, may occur in September. I am hopeful, but additionally cautious concerning the prospect. As keen as I’m to go to festivals once more, it is exhausting, at this level, to think about any main occasion continuing as regular.

Because it occurs, the 2 titles I am recommending this week, “Dangerous Training” and “True Historical past Of The Kelly Gang,” are each movies that I caught at Toronto final fall. “Dangerous Training,” which premieres this Saturday on HBO, is a great and wickedly humorous drama a few scandal that rocked Lengthy Island in 2004 when it got here to mild that thousands and thousands of {dollars} have been embezzled from the rich faculty district of Roslyn Heights. Like all good rip-off motion pictures, this one is filled with outrageous twists and satisfying comeuppances. It is also about white-collar crooks, who’re at all times painfully human even at their most dastardly and dunderheaded. Hugh Jackman stars as Dr. Frank Tassone, Roslyn’s beloved faculty superintendent. And Allison Janney performs his deputy, Pamela Gluckin. Their district is likely one of the top-ranked within the nation. Take a look at scores are up. And Roslyn’s college students are flooding Ivy League colleges, driving up property values.

Frank and Pam make fairly a workforce and so did Jackman and Janney, who give their finest performances in a while. Working from Mike Makowsky’s sharp script, they flip day-to-day administrative chatter into scintillating repartee. Frank, specifically, makes a captivating and genuinely sophisticated antihero. You’ll be able to inform how image-obsessed he’s from his impeccable fits and his strict low-carb weight-reduction plan.

However there are early indicators that his completely manicured life is not all it is cracked as much as be. However Frank can also be a gifted instructor and administrator. And he takes a real curiosity in his college students. We see this when a scholar journalist named Rachel interviews him for an article on a really costly actual property undertaking that the district is contemplating.

(SOUNDBITE OF FILM, “BAD EDUCATION”)

GERALDINE VISWANATHAN: (As Rachel) OK. So they simply – they need me to put in writing an article concerning the skywalk proposal within the new finances. And I simply want a pull quote from administration.

HUGH JACKMAN: (As Frank) Yeah. Oh, OK. Soundbite. Good. We have been asking excessive schoolers how we will make their day simpler. So we got here up with this concept of the skywalk, a bridge to hyperlink the college from finish to finish. And it is an enormous endeavor for us. And we will not wait to interrupt floor as soon as the plans are accredited subsequent Could.

VISWANATHAN: (As Rachel) Nice. That is all I would like. Thanks a lot.

JACKMAN: (As Frank) Effectively, that is it? No follow-ups?

VISWANATHAN: (As Rachel) No, it is only a puff piece. They save the true tales for seniors.

JACKMAN: (As Frank) Rachel, it is solely a puff piece in case you let or not it’s a puff piece.

CHANG: Frank’s recommendation will come again to chunk him when Rachel, performed by the terrific Geraldine Viswanathan, begins digging into the district’s monetary data and finds some curious discrepancies. Even when the Roslyn scandal would not ring a bell, you possibly can in all probability guess the place this muckraking story is headed. However the director, Cory Finley, navigates the fabric with ease. And his actors by no means cease stunning you. And Jackman, along with his seductive appeal and megawatt grin, reminds you that he was born to razzle-dazzle an viewers. Between this and the two-faced carnival barker he performed in “The Biggest Showman,” he is actually a con man for all seasons.

A way more infamous criminal is on the middle of “True Historical past Of The Kelly Gang,” an IFC Movies launch you could watch on Amazon Prime, Apple TV and different platforms. This brutal and gripping drama, tailored from Peter Carey’s Booker Prize-winning novel, is a revisionist riff on the life and crimes of Ned Kelly, the 19th century Australian outlaw whose bloody exploits have been memorialized in books, performs, songs and two earlier movies starring Mick Jagger and Heath Ledger. Right here, the function falls to the superb George MacKay from “1917.” Although, he’s initially performed by a placing younger newcomer named Orlando Schwerdt.

We see Ned’s exhausting upbringing, the place his poor, Irish-born mother and father run afoul of the legislation, resulting in his father’s premature loss of life. Ned is much more profoundly scarred by his prostitute mom, performed by a ferocious Essie Davis, who appears to be like on the boy with a bizarre mixture of delight, contempt and near-Oedipal lust. The excellent solid additionally consists of Russell Crowe as Harry Energy, a bandit who exhibits Ned the ropes. And Nicholas Hoult is memorable because the louche and sadistic Constable Fitzpatrick, who turns into Ned’s chief nemesis when he and his gang start their thieving, murdering rampage.

Whereas the dialogue is steeped in gnarled, interval vernacular, the film’s sensibility is completely trendy. It gazes at Kelly by means of a punk rock prism. In probably the most outre contact, Ned and his gang commit their crimes sporting ladies’s attire on the logic that nothing will appear crazier or scarier to their enemies.

Regardless of its title, “True Historical past Of The Kelly Gang” would not declare any foundation in actuality. And but, its wild, untamed studying of the Kelly legend will get at one thing that feels remarkably true. The director, Justin Kurzel, achieves the identical visible depth he delivered to his “Macbeth” – all fire-lit interiors, weird strobe results and snowy, blood-spattered landscapes. It deserves the grandeur of the large display. However do not deny your self the joys of seeing it any approach you possibly can.

DAVIES: Justin Chang is a movie critic at The LA Instances. Monday on FRESH AIR, our visitor shall be Mindy Kaling. She has a brand new Netflix collection referred to as “By no means Have I Ever” that attracts on her experiences when she was in highschool. It was described in Self-importance Honest as breezy and pleasant, virtually constructed for quarantine marathon watching. Kaling first grew to become recognized for her function on “The Workplace” as Kelly Kapoor. I hope you will be part of us.

(SOUNDBITE OF BUCKY PIZZARELLI AND JOHN PIZZARELLI’S “THREE LITTLE WORDS”)

DAVIES: FRESH AIR’s government producer is Danny Miller. Our technical director and engineer is Audrey Bentham, with extra engineering assist from Joyce Lieberman and Julian Herzfeld. Our interviews and opinions are produced and edited by Amy Salit, Phyllis Myers, Sam Briger, Lauren Krenzel, Heidi Saman, Therese Madden, Mooj Zadie, Thea Chaloner and Seth Kelley. Our affiliate producer of digital media is Molly Seavy-Nesper. Roberta Shorrock directs the present. For Terry Gross, I am Dave Davies.

(SOUNDBITE OF BUCKY PIZZARELLI AND JOHN PIZZARELLI’S “THREE LITTLE WORDS”) Transcript supplied by NPR, Copyright NPR.



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