DAVE DAVIES, HOST:

That is FRESH AIR. I am Dave Davies, in for Terry Gross. As we speak, as a deal with whereas all of us are dealing with the pandemic, now we have a efficiency by probably the greatest jazz and blues singers round – Catherine Russell. Numerous the fabric she does is jazz, blues and pop relationship again to the 1930s and ’40s. Her father, Luis Russell, was a pianist, composer and arranger and was Louis Armstrong’s music director within the mid-’40s. Her mom, Carline Ray, carried out with the all-women’s band The Worldwide Sweethearts of Rhythm. Catherine Russell’s newest album is titled “Alone Collectively.”

Terry invited her to our studio in 2012, when her album “Strictly Romancin'” was launched. She was accompanied by guitarist Matt Munisteri.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED NPR BROADCAST)

CATHERINE RUSSELL: (Singing) Get up and stay. Do not thoughts the wet patter, and you will see it is thoughts over matter. Darkish clouds will break up in the event you simply get up and stay. Yeah, get up and stay. Present the stuff you are fabricated from. Simply observe via. What are you afraid of? You will strive it, will not you? Why do not you get up and stay? Come out of your shell. Hey, fella, discover your house within the solar. Come out of your shell. Say, fella, simply be a go-getting son of a gun. Get up and stay, if woman luck is yawning. Up in your toes, a greater day is dawning. Do not let up, rise up and provides. Simply give your self a shake-up simply to get up and stay. Come out of your shell. Hey, fella, discover your house within the solar. Come out of your shell. Say, fella, simply be a go-getting son of a gun. Yeah, get up and stay if woman luck is yawning. Up in your toes, a greater day is dawning. Do not let up, rise up and provides. Simply give your self a shake-up simply to get up and stay.

TERRY GROSS: Yeah, that was nice. Thanks each a lot.

(LAUGHTER)

GROSS: That is Catherine Russell singing with Matt Munisteri featured on guitar. Now, you are right here singing stay for us, which is thrilling. However there’s an album – there is a track from the brand new album I really need to play from the album as a result of your mom is featured on it, singing a duet with you on a Rosa (ph) Tharpe gospel track.

RUSSELL: Sister Rosetta Tharpe and Sister Marine Knight recorded so much collectively again within the 1940s. And he or she swung. You recognize, that is what additionally grabbed me about her music.

GROSS: So let’s hear the monitor from the album wherein you sing a duet together with your mom, and that is “He is All I Want.” And that is my visitor, Catherine Russell, together with her mom Carline Ray, who used to carry out most famously in The Worldwide Sweethearts of Rhythm, an all-women’s band, throughout World Struggle II. And that is from Catherine’s new album, which is known as “Strictly Romancin’.”

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “HE’S ALL I NEED”)

CATHERINE RUSSELL AND CARLINE RAY: (Singing) If I used to be hungry with out bread to eat. Effectively, If I used to be bare with no sneakers on my ft. Effectively, if I used to be questioning, oh, Lord, the place would I be? The Lord, he’s my shepherd, – yeah, yeah – and that is all I will ever want. And now the Lord is my shepherd – he’s my shepherd – the Lord is my shepherd. And that is all I must know. Oh now the Lord is my shepherd…

GROSS: That is Catherine Russell duetting together with her mom Carline Ray from Catherine’s new album “Strictly Romanin’.” I actually like that a lot. At a time when there have been few girls instrumentalists in jazz, your mom was enjoying guitar with The Worldwide Sweethearts of Rhythm…

RUSSELL: Sure.

GROSS: …Within the 1940s, throughout World Struggle II. After which your father dies whenever you’re 7.

RUSSELL: Yeah.

GROSS: So your mom’s on her personal…

RUSSELL: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

GROSS: …Elevating you.

RUSSELL: Sure.

GROSS: So you could have gotten the impression from her that ladies can positively be sturdy and do issues which can be unconventional for ladies.

RUSSELL: Sure. You recognize, even when my dad was alive, I imply, she was all the time very impartial. She left dwelling to go on the street, and girls simply did not actually do this. You recognize, so my grandfather – she used to inform me the story. You recognize, my grandfather would say, you may be again, , whenever you’ve…

GROSS: (Laughter).

RUSSELL: You will be again, . And he or she left, and she or he did not come again, actually, . She simply left and began working proper after she graduated from Juilliard College of Music. You recognize, she needed to play, and she or he was impressed by all of the jazz on 52nd Road and listening to, , Billie Vacation stay, and Artwork Tatum accompanied her one evening. And so she was actually decided and really impartial and really centered.

GROSS: In case you’re simply becoming a member of us, we’re doing one thing particular at this time. We now have Catherine Russell performing some songs for us in our studio, accompanied by guitarist Matt Munisteri.

So each your dad and mom had been jazz musicians.

RUSSELL: Sure.

GROSS: However you grew up listening to all types of issues rising up within the ’50s and ’60s. I’ll ask you to sing a track that meant so much to you whenever you had been coming of age musically and whenever you had been actually impressionable and studying new issues.

RUSSELL: All proper. Effectively, my first 45 that I purchased was a Supremes 45. I feel it value me about 40 cents again in 1964, 1965 – one thing like that. Then with all of the lady teams, I beloved a track referred to as “Nowhere To Run” by Martha Reeves and the Vandellas. Then afterward, I noticed that The Isley Brothers additionally recorded it, and I beloved their model of it. In order that’s the place I take this model from.

GROSS: Improbable. And that is my visitor Catherine Russell singing with guitarist Matt Munisteri.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “NOWHERE TO RUN”)

RUSSELL: (Singing) Nowhere to run to, child, nowhere to cover. I acquired nowhere to run to, child, nowhere to cover. It isn’t love I am working from; it is simply the heartache I do know will come ‘trigger I do know you are no good for me. However you’ve got grow to be part of me. All over the place I am going, each face I see, each step I take, you’re taking with me, child. Nowhere to run to, child, nowhere to cover. Oh, acquired nowhere to run to, child, nowhere to cover. I do know you are no good for me now, however freed from you I will by no means be, yeah. Nowhere to run to, child, nowhere to cover. Oh, yeah, nowhere to run to, child, nowhere to cover. Nowhere to cover.

GROSS: That was nice. And what an achievement to sing that solo and not using a backup group, ?

(LAUGHTER)

GROSS: It is humorous ‘trigger that is the type of track that is normally so depending on, like, the backup singers. You was once a backup singer. And right here you might be doing it solo.

(LAUGHTER)

RUSSELL: I do not know. I simply love that track. I really like the truth that it is really blues, . It is a unhappy track, but it surely’s – , we used to bounce to that track after I was a child.

DAVIES: We’re listening again to a live performance recorded in 2012 with jazz and blues singer Catherine Russell and guitarist Matt Munisteri. Extra after a break. That is FRESH AIR.

(SOUNDBITE OF ERROLL GARNER’S “YOU MADE ME LOVE YOU”)

DAVIES: That is FRESH AIR. Let’s get again to our live performance with Catherine Russell and guitarist Matt Munisteri recorded in 2012, after her album “Strictly Romancin'” was launched.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED NPR BROADCAST)

GROSS: I might love so that you can do one other track. And it is a track by Fat Waller that is the title monitor of considered one of your earlier albums referred to as “Inside This Coronary heart Of Mine.” You recognize, you all the time affiliate Fat Waller with these, like, up-tempo type of jokey songs, and it is a actually, like, heartbreaking track. And it isn’t what you’d count on. It is a fantastic track. Inform us why you selected it.

RUSSELL: That is why I selected it as a result of one other occasion of me, , cleansing up the kitchen after an excellent meal, and I mentioned, let me put Fat Waller on, . And I used to be type of, , dancing across the kitchen, after which it simply struck me. It is such a fantastic track, and the lyric simply type of caught me. And I believed, OK, I’ve to be taught this; I’ve to sing it.

GROSS: Effectively, you are not kidding round whenever you sing it.

RUSSELL: Thanks.

(LAUGHTER)

GROSS: So that is my visitor Catherine Russell with Matt Munisteri on guitar, and so they’re performing in our studio. And he or she has a brand new album which is known as “Strictly Romancin’.”

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “INSIDE THIS HEART OF MINE”)

RUSSELL: (Singing) Exterior it is sunny. However on this coronary heart of mine, the world is gloomy. The solar refused to shine. I’ve executed one of the best that I might do, all for you. Now we’re via. Sunshine brings hazard inside this coronary heart of mine. Blue skies taunt me. Reminiscences hang-out me. You do not need me. Let me be alone and have my cry. Exterior it is sunny, however that is an actual dangerous signal. Love is a stranger inside this coronary heart of mine. Blue skies taunt me. Reminiscences hang-out me. You do not need me. Let me be alone and have my cry. Exterior it is sunny, however that is an actual dangerous signal. Love is a stranger inside this coronary heart of mine – inside this coronary heart of mine.

GROSS: Fabulous. Thanks a lot. I really like the best way you do this track.

With me in our studio is singer Catherine Russell and guitarist Matt Munisteri. They’re performing some songs for us. She has a brand new album which is known as “Strictly Romancin’.” He is the featured guitarist and music director on the album.

So I hate to say it, however our – I feel our time is up. And earlier than you allow, I might love so that you can sing one other track for us.

RUSSELL: OK.

GROSS: And I’ve one to advocate, and it is referred to as “All the pieces’s Been Completed Earlier than.” It is one of many songs on the brand new album, which is known as “Strictly Romancin’.” And once more, inform us why you selected this one.

RUSSELL: I used to be as soon as once more listening to a compilation and this time it was a Louis Armstrong compilation, and Decca had simply put this compilation out.

GROSS: Was your father on these information?

RUSSELL: Sure. And that is throughout a interval when my dad was musical director and one of many arrangers for Louis Armstrong’s orchestra – it was really my dad’s orchestra through the years of 1935 to 1943. This assortment goes as much as 1946, however lots of the tunes are, , my dad’s preparations. And so after I hearken to this music, it is like I am simply dwelling, . It is – so after I hear Louis Armstrong sing, every thing he sings – he is so inspiring to me as a result of he had a tough life. And every thing he sings, his life is in each lyric. You consider every thing he sings, ? And so after I heard this track, I believed anybody else singing that, it will type of be corny-sounding to individuals, perhaps. I do not know. However when he sings it, it is so actual that it simply drew me in. And I believed, what a easy concept. What a old school, romantic concept.

GROSS: So was your father music director when Armstrong sang issues like “Received A Model New Go well with” or…

RUSSELL: Yeah. Sure.

GROSS: No, actually?

RUSSELL: Sure. Sure. Sure.

GROSS: Or “On A Coconut Island?”

RUSSELL: Yeah. That is on these…

GROSS: No – oh, I really like that stuff.

RUSSELL: All of these issues are on that – yeah, throughout these years…

GROSS: Oh, no.

RUSSELL: …Yeah, within the ’30s.

GROSS: In order that was really your father’s band?

RUSSELL: Yeah. That was his orchestra.

GROSS: Catherine Russell, it has been, actually, very particular to have you ever right here performing at this time. Thanks so very a lot.

RUSSELL: Effectively, thank, you. You haven’t any concept. It has been so particular for me. And I simply need to say, goals can come true. So…

(LAUGHTER)

GROSS: And Matt Munisteri, thanks a lot for being right here at this time.

MATT MUNISTERI: Thanks, thanks.

GROSS: So we’ll hear yet one more track. And that is, once more, a track from Catherine Russell’s new album, “Strictly Romancin’.” However she’s performing in our studio with Matt Munisteri on guitar. And thanks each once more.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “EVERYTHING’S BEEN DONE BEFORE”)

RUSSELL: (Singing) All the pieces’s been executed earlier than. To share a kiss, a second’s bliss, and listen to you whisper you like me – sweetheart, it is thrills as outdated because the hills. However it’s new to me. Oh, every thing’s been executed earlier than. The birds that sing the track of spring all the time singing above me – but, with you, their singing is one thing that is new to me. Life is unusual. We hate to alter from what’s tried and true. Though, I do know I am solely doing what the others do. But, all of it appears new. Oh, every thing’s been executed earlier than. To fall in love with stars above started with Adam and Eve. However after I’m with you, I simply need to do what’s been executed earlier than. Oh, life is unusual. We hate to alter from what’s tried and true. Though, I do know I am solely doing what the others do. But, all of it appears information. All the pieces’s been executed earlier than. To fall in love with stars above started with Adam and Eve. However after I’m with you, I simply need to do what’s been earlier than.

DAVIES: Our live performance with Catherine Russell and Matt Munisteri on guitar was recorded in 2012. Her newest album is titled “Alone Collectively.” Arising, movie critic Justin Chang critiques two crime dramas that start streaming this week. That is FRESH AIR.

(SOUNDBITE OF JAKE MASON TRIO’S “LEMON TWIST”)

DAVIES: That is FRESH AIR. There isn’t any scarcity of outdated and new motion pictures to look at whereas many people are staying at dwelling. Our movie critic, Justin Chang, critiques two new, very completely different crime dramas that start streaming this week, “Dangerous Schooling” and “True Historical past Of The Kelly Gang,” each of which he first noticed eventually 12 months’s Toronto Worldwide Movie Competition. Here is Justin.

JUSTIN CHANG, BYLINE: I see plenty of motion pictures yearly at movie festivals, which, like all public gatherings, have been hit exhausting by the coronavirus pandemic. Some, like South by Southwest, have been cancelled whereas others, like Cannes, have been postponed till additional discover. Many within the business are cautiously optimistic that Toronto, one of many greatest festivals on the planet, may occur in September. I am hopeful, but additionally cautious concerning the prospect. As keen as I’m to go to festivals once more, it is exhausting, at this level, to think about any main occasion continuing as regular.

Because it occurs, the 2 titles I am recommending this week, “Dangerous Schooling” and “True Historical past Of The Kelly Gang,” are each movies that I caught at Toronto final fall. “Dangerous Schooling,” which premieres this Saturday on HBO, is a great and wickedly humorous drama a couple of scandal that rocked Lengthy Island in 2004 when it got here to gentle that hundreds of thousands of {dollars} have been embezzled from the rich faculty district of Roslyn Heights. Like all good rip-off motion pictures, this one is stuffed with outrageous twists and satisfying comeuppances. It is also about white-collar crooks, who’re all the time painfully human even at their most dastardly and dunderheaded. Hugh Jackman stars as Dr. Frank Tassone, Roslyn’s beloved faculty superintendent. And Allison Janney performs his deputy, Pamela Gluckin. Their district is without doubt one of the top-ranked within the nation. Take a look at scores are up. And Roslyn’s college students are flooding Ivy League colleges, driving up property values.

Frank and Pam make fairly a workforce and so did Jackman and Janney, who give their finest performances in a while. Working from Mike Makowsky’s sharp script, they flip day-to-day administrative chatter into scintillating repartee. Frank, specifically, makes an enthralling and genuinely sophisticated antihero. You may inform how image-obsessed he’s from his impeccable fits and his strict low-carb weight loss plan.

However there are early indicators that his completely manicured life is not all it is cracked as much as be. However Frank can be a gifted trainer and administrator. And he takes a real curiosity in his college students. We see this when a pupil journalist named Rachel interviews him for an article on a really costly actual property challenge that the district is contemplating.

(SOUNDBITE OF FILM, “BAD EDUCATION”)

GERALDINE VISWANATHAN: (As Rachel) OK. So they only – they need me to put in writing an article concerning the skywalk proposal within the new price range. And I simply want a pull quote from administration.

HUGH JACKMAN: (As Frank) Yeah. Oh, OK. Soundbite. Good. We have been asking excessive schoolers how we will make their day simpler. So we got here up with this concept of the skywalk, a bridge to hyperlink the varsity from finish to finish. And it is an enormous endeavor for us. And we won’t wait to interrupt floor as soon as the plans are accepted subsequent Might.

VISWANATHAN: (As Rachel) Nice. That is all I would like. Thanks a lot.

JACKMAN: (As Frank) Effectively, that is it? No follow-ups?

VISWANATHAN: (As Rachel) No, it is only a puff piece. They save the true tales for seniors.

JACKMAN: (As Frank) Rachel, it is solely a puff piece in the event you let it’s a puff piece.

CHANG: Frank’s recommendation will come again to chunk him when Rachel, performed by the terrific Geraldine Viswanathan, begins digging into the district’s monetary information and finds some curious discrepancies. Even when the Roslyn scandal does not ring a bell, you may in all probability guess the place this muckraking story is headed. However the director, Cory Finley, navigates the fabric with ease. And his actors by no means cease stunning you. And Jackman, together with his seductive allure and megawatt grin, reminds you that he was born to razzle-dazzle an viewers. Between this and the two-faced carnival barker he performed in “The Biggest Showman,” he is actually a con man for all seasons.

A way more infamous criminal is on the heart of “True Historical past Of The Kelly Gang,” an IFC Movies launch you can watch on Amazon Prime, Apple TV and different platforms. This brutal and gripping drama, tailored from Peter Carey’s Booker Prize-winning novel, is a revisionist riff on the life and crimes of Ned Kelly, the 19th century Australian outlaw whose bloody exploits have been memorialized in books, performs, songs and two earlier movies starring Mick Jagger and Heath Ledger. Right here, the function falls to the wonderful George MacKay from “1917.” Although, he’s initially performed by a placing younger newcomer named Orlando Schwerdt.

We see Ned’s exhausting upbringing, the place his poor, Irish-born dad and mom run afoul of the legislation, resulting in his father’s premature loss of life. Ned is much more profoundly scarred by his prostitute mom, performed by a ferocious Essie Davis, who appears on the boy with a bizarre mixture of delight, contempt and near-Oedipal lust. The excellent solid additionally contains Russell Crowe as Harry Energy, a bandit who reveals Ned the ropes. And Nicholas Hoult is memorable because the louche and sadistic Constable Fitzpatrick, who turns into Ned’s chief nemesis when he and his gang start their thieving, murdering rampage.

Whereas the dialogue is steeped in gnarled, interval vernacular, the film’s sensibility is totally trendy. It gazes at Kelly via a punk rock prism. In probably the most outre contact, Ned and his gang commit their crimes sporting girls’s clothes on the logic that nothing will appear crazier or scarier to their enemies.

Regardless of its title, “True Historical past Of The Kelly Gang” does not declare any foundation in actuality. And but, its wild, untamed studying of the Kelly legend will get at one thing that feels remarkably true. The director, Justin Kurzel, achieves the identical visible depth he delivered to his “Macbeth” – all fire-lit interiors, weird strobe results and snowy, blood-spattered landscapes. It deserves the grandeur of the large display screen. However do not deny your self the fun of seeing it any approach you may.

DAVIES: Justin Chang is a movie critic at The LA Occasions. Monday on FRESH AIR, our visitor will likely be Mindy Kaling. She has a brand new Netflix collection referred to as “By no means Have I Ever” that attracts on her experiences when she was in highschool. It was described in Vainness Honest as breezy and pleasant, virtually constructed for quarantine marathon watching. Kaling first turned recognized for her function on “The Workplace” as Kelly Kapoor. I hope you may be a part of us.

(SOUNDBITE OF BUCKY PIZZARELLI AND JOHN PIZZARELLI’S “THREE LITTLE WORDS”)

DAVIES: FRESH AIR’s government producer is Danny Miller. Our technical director and engineer is Audrey Bentham, with further engineering assist from Joyce Lieberman and Julian Herzfeld. Our interviews and critiques are produced and edited by Amy Salit, Phyllis Myers, Sam Briger, Lauren Krenzel, Heidi Saman, Therese Madden, Mooj Zadie, Thea Chaloner and Seth Kelley. Our affiliate producer of digital media is Molly Seavy-Nesper. Roberta Shorrock directs the present. For Terry Gross, I am Dave Davies.

(SOUNDBITE OF BUCKY PIZZARELLI AND JOHN PIZZARELLI’S “THREE LITTLE WORDS”) Transcript offered by NPR, Copyright NPR.



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